NEW TESTAMENT REFUTATIONS OF THE TRINITY DOCTRINE – Part 15

Continued from Part 14

Subordination and subjection
Wherever the relationship of Jesus to God is treated in the New Testament, Jesus is always represented in a subordinate position.  This subordinate role can be seen in the fact that Jesus views himself as a messenger:  “He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives Him who sent me” (Matthew 10:40; see also John 5:36).  Jesus acknowledges his subordination and subjection to God when he declares that God is greater than he is (John 14:28), that he does nothing on his own initiative, speaking and doing only what God has taught him (John 8:28-29), and seeking not his own will, but the will of the God who sent him (John 5:30, 6:38).

NEW TESTAMENT REFUTATIONS OF THE TRINITY DOCTRINE – Part 10

Continued from Part 9

“I am”
John’s Jesus states: “‘Abraham your father rejoiced to see my day; and he saw it, and was glad.’  The Jews therefore said to him:  ‘You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?’  Jesus said to them:  ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham came into being, I am’” (John 8:56-58).   Is the author of this Gospel claiming that Jesus is part of a triune deity when he has Jesus say, “before Abraham came into being, I am” (verse 8:58)?